Monday, March 27, 2006

HSK Preparation




42 comments:

  1. Where's your pocket-protector you MASSIVE NERD!

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  2. What's a pocket-protector? A question from one nerd to another.

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  3. they're plastic liners you place in your pocket, usually with grooves for your numerous pens and pencils, to prevent punctures and ink blots.

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  4. Another nerd! You guys are even bigger nerds than I am. Hmm, I think I want one. I wonder if I could find one of those nerdy gadgets here... :p

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  5. Heto o. Follow the link: http://www.rubinoos.com/cd-rvnge.jpg

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  6. I actually wanted one when I was in Grade School.

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  7. You want nerdity? Try reading this multiply thread.

    Related to that thread, may mga tabo ba sa China?

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  8. Hahahaha! On second thought, I don't think I want that pocket-protector. Let me think about it more. Tabo? I think so. I don't have one here myself but it shouldn't be hard to find some. Madaming planggana. The plastic ones.

    Just read that link. Hahahaha! Ako din, dipper ang naisip ko when you said tabo e. And you do have a point about the Greeks. Interesting!

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  9. hanap ka ng tabo tapos kunan mo ng picture! plastic or tin, ok lang basta tabo. then you have to get the vernacular word for it. send to me hehe.

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  10. Sige, sige. Parang feeling ko baka mukhang ordinary tabo lang makita ko. Nothing fancy. Wait a sec, I feel like your tabo discussion from the other site is being continued here. Crazy! Hahahaha! I'll tell you as soon as I find one for your Tabo Pra-jeck.

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  11. kahit hindi fancy, heheehe.
    salamat po!!!

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  12. I just read that other thread and I have absolutely no idea whatsoever what this "tabo" thing could possibly be...my mind is reeling....google search....what the?!?! Is it just a big bucket with a scooper? I can't even begin to imagine how you would clean with that...

    Interesting...a lot of people are named "Tabo."

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  13. A lot of people are named Tabo?! I don't know anyone with that name.

    It's um, a dipper. A small container of liquid with a handle. Not quite a bucket. Or, yeah I guess it could be like a bucket too. But that's just the thing. There's no exact English word for it because it doesn't exist in your culture.

    Ok, imagine a pail of water. No shower. No tub. You're going to bathe yourself. You'll need a smaller liquid container, namely the tabo, to be able to splash water all over yourself. Or, imagine taking a um, poopoo. No toilet paper. Just that same pail of water and your ever reliable tabo. So, what do you do? Get it?

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  14. Hey.... all the very best for ur exams.... am sure u'll kick ass :-)

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  15. I'm still confused...after you "poopoo" do you have to get undressed and get in the shower? Or do you undress before. This means everytime you poo; you shower. That seems very sanitary, but awful inconvenient.

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  16. moth, it's another cultural thing. Most Filipinos prefer that freshly washed feeling after they take a crap, so they wash their butts off after doing the dirty deed. In the absence of those squirty bidet things, they use a tabo to scoop up some water from a pail and, well, you get the picture.

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  17. Hahahahahaha! I'm laughing so hard right now! You don't have to undress. You wash your butt while sitting in the toilet. It would be easier if you undress but it's not necessary. Can you imagine it now?

    Sandy, thanks! I hope so. Do you use anything similar in India?

    Karlo, no doubt about it. That conversation has officially been carried over here.

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  18. this conversation is really amusing! isn't it irritating that all the "international standard" hotels don't have a tabo in the bathroom? the only hotels i've been in where there is a tabo are those in the provinces.

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  19. Okay, I have most of this in focus now....but gads...I'm not sure if this after-cleaning is a sit down or stand up deal. Standing up would seem like a lot of trouble, ie; wet trousers. Sitting would also seem difficult in relation to, er, the angle.

    Also: Please tell me that this isn't a "use your bare hand with water" scenario.

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  20. Hahahahahaha! It IS "use your bare hand with water" scenario. Hahahahaha! Whatsamatter mister, disgusted of your own shit? Definitely a sit-down deal. Regarding the angle, that's included in the potty training. Kids as young as 5 years old can be skillful in the use of the tabo to clean oneself after taking a poopoo. Of course part of the training is to wash the hands with soap and water after.

    Achi Janice, for most people "international standard" = Western standard. Stupid. But there are places where there are "sprinkler-type" tools that serve the same purpose, right? So you won't need a tabo anymore. I'm fine with that.

    Karlo, I looked up "dipper" in my English-Chinese dictionary so it'll be easier to ask for one when I go to the market. Wala e. There's dip, but no dipper.

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  21. That answer made me literally cringe and suck in my lower lip until I almost swallowed it...

    TOUCHING POOPOO is NOT something I could do; even if it was my own....ewww, I'm gagging just typing this. I need a list of countries that do this so that I know who NEVER to shake hands with.

    No wonder the Japanese traditionally just bow in greeting each other!

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  22. So when you use that spout of water in bidet toilets you don't wipe your butt?

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  23. They wipe their butts with toilet paper, that's it. For us Pinoys, toilet paper is just not good enough. It will do if you really have no choice but in the comforts of our own homes, it has to be a tabo affair. Every family has at least one tabo per toilet.

    When I was a kid, I used to be really disgusted about touching my own poopoo. Hahahahaha! I can't believe I'm sharing this here. Gaaaad! I think most kids go through that initial stage of disgust. They call adults to wash their butts after they poopoo not because they can't do it themselves but because they can't bring themselves to actually touch their butts with poopoo. I know I did.

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  24. I have never used a bidet....never even seen one in real life....do I really look French??? I'm a six-nationality mutt, and one of those is French but I didn't think it showed. Hmmm.

    Yes, Americans for the most part only use toilet paper, though many now prefer wet wipes and a toilet paper dry-off follow-up. Some of us like to wet some toilet paper from the tap and finish with the dry off. I was a fan of the tap and dry off.

    American culture dirtiness paranoia. I never realized how paranoid we Amers were about dirt until I came to China and realized how initially paranoid I was about it. Now I follow the "if Chinese people can do that without dropping over dead, then so can I" rule. It's working out fine so far... but I am not going to try reading the newspaper during the act and then using what I have just read to clean up as so many Chinese are fond of doing. I still have SOME limits.

    This discussion has uncovered another interesting cultural tidbit of my own culture (I've learned more about America being away from there than my entire life there). We are taught from a very young age that poo is the most foul, wretched and potentially lethal thing on the planet (along with cockroaches). I wonder what historically caused this. Maybe there was some major cholera epidemic early in American history....I must research...google here I come...

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  25. Hahahaha! "...the metaphor for the Filipino diaspora..." I love it!

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  26. AND, the original tabo thread is still going strong!

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  27. exactly. that's why those hotels don't have a tabo. personally, i don't like those sprinkler types. i don't have as much control of where the water goes as much as the tabo. hehe. the vase is a good idea!

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  28. i'm sorry, but i find your comments so hilarious!

    i would think that most people use their left hand to do this because you get more control of the tabo and the water using your right hand. except maybe when you're left-handed. so you don't have to worry about shaking hands.

    and hey, you guys pick up after your dogs' poopoo. it might be with a plastic bag or some paper, but that's still disgusting!

    and we wash our butts with soap and water after the initial water bath. and we definitely wash our hands with soap and water when it's all over.

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  29. OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! now, that's disgusting! come to think of it, that couldn't be very effective either coz that hurts.

    the wet wipes is a good idea. but i'm not sure how common the flushable ones are. i know the ones in manila can clog the toilet bowl. and not flushing it would be even more disgusting than the tabo+water. thus, tabo rules!

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  30. In China it is un-advisable to flush any paper products as the plumbing can't handle it anywhere. All restrooms have a basket filled with the...er....afterproduct.

    Where I grew up dogs always did their business in the forest...I never owned a dog when I lived in the city but can confirm that Amers def don't always pick up after their dogs. Bastards. Seattle was pretty pretentious. A lot of people just hired people to walk their dogs for them. Can you imagine someone asking you your job and replying, "I'm a dog walker?"

    In the US the plumbing is exceptional. You can flush just about anything, even small pets when they pass on. Flush flush flush away!

    I'm still not shaking hands anymore.

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  31. oh, more details for prominentmoth =) You use soap with the tabo system too. Why didn't anyone mention this? You guys don't use soap! Yikes! Hahaa!

    This tabo blog is more open. I like this. Hahaa!

    The bidet has been replaced in many parts (for the lack of bathroom space) by a permanent sprinkler system in some households in the Philippines. I didn't know what they were when i first saw one. I thought it might be a way to adminitster a colonoscopy. I have a tabo at home, but it is used primarily to mix paints, clean small engine parts, and goes back to service when water pressure is low. I have adopted a flexible sprinkling system, similar to the kitchen flexible and extendable faucet. It works well. I once asked a contractor in Madrid to install it in a bathroom there. They thought i was nuts and had to sign a waiver that freed them of any liability. Then they saw it worked well. I have seen this contractor removing the space consuming bidets and using my system in other homes now. My european system has both hot and cold water. Naks! Long live the Tabo! =)

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  32. The plumbing in the apartment that I'm living in now is okay. I even flushed my dead fish in the toilet. Several times. They kept dying on me one after the other so I'd be flushing one fish after another in a period of several weeks. I should never have pets. Of course those are tiny little fish. I've never tried flushing wet wipes in my toilet but I have in a public one. I'm happy to report that it was successful.

    On wet wipes, I think that's a great invention. Next to the tabo. I had diarrhea weeks ago and those wet wipes are heaven sent when I had to go to the toilet several times while I was in school. Yes, those were the times when I had the chance to flush them. I have a feeling I'm now revealing too much information.

    One last thing. Karlo, I'll start hunting for a tabo after I've moved. Too busy right now.

    This is really the last. Sandy! You have to join in the discussion. I'm sure everyone would love to know the bathroom habits of Indians. Do you have a tabo there?

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  33. as the accidental originator of the tabo thread i felt a need to be part of this discussion. haha. i was watching an episode of world's apart on cable and they were in india. the area they were in had been experiencing a lot of drought so they also used a pail and tabo system in their bathroom. i dont know if this extends to non-bathing bathroom activities though.

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  34. Of course you're welcome to the discussion! We have you to thank. Then Karlo. :p Who would have thought my post on my nerdiness will turn into a discussion on tabo?

    It would really be interesting to know about the non-bathing bathroom activities...

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  35. The Tabo Travel Troupe now has an official Multiply site. Everything you want to know, need to know, have always wondered (and some things that you never even thought of) about the tabo is here. Basically, if it has anything to do with the well-loved Pinoy tabo, it's here. Check it out.

    http://taboproject.multiply.com/

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  36. Indian Perspective on Tabo Concept:

    Due to so called great (was it?? May be, because that puts us in english speaking and educated league of nations)british rule, we have mixed cultures and this is true in case of Tabo System too.

    We have two types of toilet closets, one is Western like the ones you all know.
    Second type what british people called as "Indian Holes". That means, the toilet closet is fixed in ground and then you can imagin how to take a dump, I mean in which position.

    Tabo (If I am not missunderstood about the MUG/Pot/Vesssel/Whatsever you people are referring to ) is used in both types of Toilets as Water is prime source and yes of course left hand (Unless you are Lefty person).

    Why left hand: There comes in hindu philosophy.....

    Like Ying and Yang in chinese culture, hindu philosophy believes that we all human being are made up of Good as well as Evil. So if u divide human body vertically in two halves, then the left side of your body presents the evil and other one good side in you. So, in day to day life too using left hand for auspicious thing is not considered to be good....

    For ex: If you receive money (Godess of Money is Laxmi: Million Gods are in picture here.... hehehhe) , then as you deal with something good or god, left hand big NO NO!!

    Same is true if you go to temple and if you are offered a sweet or flower by Priest, you don't move forward your left hand to receive it, you use right hand. Well, if you try to receive it in left hand, surely everyone will give you strange look and of course you will be forced to receive it in right hand even you claim you are lefty. No negotiations and no individuality accepted and respected.

    Coming back to subject area:
    Unless you are in big cities and good hotels, forget toilet papers for sure. :) Tabo will be there.

    As mentioned somewhere above in the thread: Washing hands with soap and water is absolutely normal practice. Holds true in India too.

    So in good old days when there was no electricity and modern technology like Soaps what indians did to take of hygiene factor??.

    Well, they burnt wood and coal in order to cook the meals like other civilizations. Once wood is burnt, what remains is ASH powder. The ash powder was used for :
    Cleaning cooking utensils
    Washing hands to get rid of germs and any bacterias.

    Ask any chemical expert what are contents of common ash out of wood, I think most of the chemical compositions of soap can be traced in ash although it does not makes foam like normal soap.

    Sounds logical and rational??

    Well, for people who are much fussy about anything, India is not the place for them as they won't like it in the first place because of crowed, then extreme climats, then pollution and on top of that a stark contrast in indian way of Personal and Social Hygiene standards where personal hygiene is very very well valued and social hygiene ....... well expereince it first hand when you land up there. hehhee!!!

    Did I impart some wisdom here??? Hehehhe!!!!!

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  37. Wow. Well, being a former Western colony, the Philippines too has a mixed culture. In fact it's so mixed that we sometimes find it hard to know which is purely Filipino, if there is such a thing. The tabo, however, is definitely Filipino. It's something that survived more than 400 years of Western colonization. So there.

    As for using the left hand, I think we just do it because it's easier. The right is for its strength to hold the tabo-ful of water, the left is for um, precision? Hahaha!

    So what's the Indian word for tabo? And does every Indian home have it too?

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  38. Yes, sure they have, Indian word for it.... in which language ... Miss there are officially 17 languages (No dialects)...... so I am not sure which ones I know myself and which ones I can tell you...

    But I will try:
    In Marathi(My mother tongue) : Tambya or Lota or Dabba(A tin vessel) or we even call tumbril (It was old british word used for those white coated metal cups of huge sizes used by soldiers for drinking tea/water and holy cow may be as tabo too!!! My guess is, when british left, they left many of them in india and being those british products, those indians started using them as tabos as revenge on british hence the word tumbril )

    In national language Hindi (I am not expert of it) but it is called as Loti or Lota I am not pretty sure :) hehhe!

    Hand raised: Well a question. I read this word hindi in your few filipino discussions, what it means in your language?

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  39. There are also a lot of languages in the Philippines. "Tabo" is Tagalog or Filipino. I don't know what it's called in the other Philippine languages.

    Hahaha! "Hindi" means "no" or "not".

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  40. Tambya - Sounds like TIMBA (pail in tagalog) i think those two words are linguistically related. im not so sure but im very certain...hehehe

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